There’s always BME, but it only has 2 core bio courses. The mechanical courses in Mechatronics are: MTE119 (statics), MTE219 ("Mechanics of Deformable Solids", so statics 2), ME321 Ranking UW's most competitive ENG programs: SE > BME > CE = SDYE = TRON > MECH > EE. Mechanical engineers go into more depth in their physics courses and mechanical things at the expense of programming, while Mechatronics engineers give up some physics and mechanical courses for programming. Anyways, it’s an awesome program and you’re guaranteed your option so I would take it. First year I worked at McDonald’s for minimum wage and next thing I knew I was at NASA on a co-op for 150 an hour. It’s a strong engineering school so it might be good to consider. The support structures for students is better (excepting co-op). So i am basically torn btw mechatronics, system design, electrical and computer engineering, does anyone in terms of difficulty how hard all these programs , the program with the best profs and which has the most demanding schedule. I can totally say that Mechatronics grads are in demand. •. Otherwise the best schools, as usual, and take appropriate classes. For reference, my goal is to work in the U. All students are required to write and submit 3 satisfactory work reports. Queens is a nice town to go to Waterloo is a nice school to go to. People with Queen's and Western engineering degrees can get good jobs as well. great coop, great courses, good profs, and you dont waste time learning stuff youre not interested in (for the most part). Posted by u/alexogenesis - 3 votes and 3 comments Gives you exposure to content traditionally found in both electrical and mechanical engineering. Reply EDIT: Thanks for all the help!!! Yea I'm leaning towards windsor bc its cheaper and the EE program here cant be terrible. I did all software lol. I'm having trouble deciding on which one to choose between mac and uw. Waterloo isn't even half as old as UBC plus admits way more engineers than waterloo, so all the ranking is bullshit. Calgary is way cheaper (tuition and living), the city of Calgary is way nicer than Waterloo (although Toronto is an hour away), and the gear degrees are the same (although Waterloo requires you to start working sooner). It's a good base to get into any field, but may require a bit more self study to compete for software jobs. Otherwise the other 3 tron programs are all pretty similar. It's one of the most fun, has high energy students, they do really cool projects, and develop a lot of great skills. These fourth-year technical electives are chosen as the basis for achieving the student's ultimate career objective after graduation. Here are my pros and cons list for each Waterloo Pros: Better program reputation Better co-op Can someone tell me about mechatronics? I'm not in grade twelve, I'm just halfway through this program and still don't know what it is. In the final year, five waterloo tron is pretty nice and if you want mechatronics in canada, that should 100% be your top choice. If you have any more questions, feel free to DM me! hello, i've applied to nanoeng 2021 at waterloo because i love chem, math, bio and labs. How difficult is it to get into mechatronics engineering? My average is around 93, but I expect to bring it to 95 soon. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online Bringing up illegal housing disputes to WUSA general meeting on March. I've applied to both Mechatronics and Computer Science at Waterloo. I feel like i'm missing out on a particular type of technology if i delve too much into one field. I have applied to specifically System Designs Engineering, Computing and Financial Management, and CS/BBA. That's great because it gives a lot of options for career paths. I would claim the opposite is true. 2 which is pretty bad I think. 0. For a little context, in September I tried to do Carleton's Mechanical Engineering program, but due to some personal reasons I ended up having to drop out in the end of February. You will almost definitely have the highest chance of getting into electrical engineering. So instead of ranking, my friend and I looked at results. Tbh if ur headset on computer/mechatronics I would take a gap year and reapply. Some of these reasons included having an expected workload of ~90 hrs/week (30 hrs for lectures and labs, 30 for Posted by u/engineerofthe-future - 4 votes and 10 comments Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online Life hack: set your exam schedule as a widget, keeps you on track. I find it crazy but if u think it’s better for u then go for it. Ask yourself if you see yourself in a similar position! Also Waterloo SYDE has incredible ppl in it I’ve heard, very outgoing and smart, so there’s that! Waterloo installs 'nap tubes' for students without housing. I worked building a prototype robot as an internship right before coming to 'loo, and then designed PCBs and enclosures at a startup The only question we can answer is the question about your language courses, the language that 1A tron uses is C++. Linear algebra will likely end up being a very useful course in 3rd or 4th year if you take AI and software courses and want to understand the fundamentals. You need a 90+ average minimum. That being said…. i've had a pretty mediocre experience w/ co-op but people seem to be either doing the software meme (yelp/google/etc) or doing more integration-engineering-y stuff. To be short, you’re not switching. For a bit of background, I have been interested in computer engineering for a while, both the software and hardware aspects. Worldly-Ad3447. 11K subscribers in the OntarioGrade12s community. Although getting a ft position after graduation is possible it's not easy. I prepared a wall of text but Tl;Dr is : I graduated a year ago and i worked as a Mold Designer, Android Developer and Control Engineer. Jack of all trades, master of none. Only 4-6 elective courses total. this shit is subjective. Their skills are definitely applicable in the real world and I wish that I actually did do mechatronics. I’m a first year in UW Eng, and these stats are accurate for 2023, 2024 should be similar. People with uOttawa and Carleton engineering degree can only get shitty jobs or no jobs at all. Non-technical or "complementary studies" elective courses (CSEs) are distributed throughout the program to give academic breadth; however, elective courses are not included every term. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Each Option requires students to complete a set of specific technical elective courses, and extra courses must usually be taken in Mcmaster is a very solid engineering school but waterloo is better when it comes to tech and computer related eng streams cuz they have alot of connections. According to the CEO of Y-Combinator (Multibillion dollar company) (graduate of Stanford), he said that as of 2014, Waterloo performed better than stanford! Some people from my mechatronics class went to become software developers at FAANG, some went into academia for robotics, some people did more mechanical focussed stuff at places like Tesla. People with Waterloo engineering degrees can get great jobs. Also, I wouldn’t recommend queens tron if you want your PEng because their program isn’t accredited yet. ME to MTE isn’t your typical free switch with EE <-> CE or Geo -> Enviro/Civil. 'When your sleepy you just crawl in one end. Specializations and Options. I have an admission average of 91. Get a head start on designing the electromechanical devices of tomorrow with a Mechatronics Engineering degree from the University of Waterloo. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online To the group that keeps talking in DP after being asked to shut up The Mechatronics Engineering (MTE) program at the University of Waterloo consists of nearly 200 students each year. I was wondering if I have access to a greater range of jobs through the Mechatronics program, including those that are available through the CS programs. It’s also more convenient transport-wise and there’s lots of internships in the city. So I have recently received a conditional offer to Mechatronics Engineering program. Maybe consider BME :) You can take Mechatronics with a life science option, which is like a minor but with fewer courses. Queen's and Western engineering = decent. I'm an international applicant. MIT, TU Delft, Berkley, Columbia, etc. I have a decent average but my schools adjustment got really bad this year which knocked my average down to a 95. Source: Elec Eng undergrad, Mech Eng grad student. True Mechatronics co-ops are not super Waterloo Mechatronics or McGill Mechanical Engineering? For context, I live in Montreal and have been accepted to both programs. Also keep in mind that that 80-85% is 1% for a reason. but then i know people that say there's nothing in waterloo and wish they went elsewhere. 27 Tron will always be at a disadvantage for Mech/ECE/SE jobs and there are very few true robotics/Tron jobs, especially for coop. I would like you guys to share your thoughts and opinions regarding Tron in general and such aspects as workload, difficulty, co-op placements in particular. paging u/wantron_soup. I feel like queens is a better fit for me in terms of community and social life. 88%, not sure if it gets rounded up or down. On the other hand, CS is more recognizable and has better "brand appeal", especially in a university renowned for its presence in the tech industry. Since PEY is 16 months long whereas Wloo coop is about 20 months long, would finding coops by myself prior to PEY make up for the gap? View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit Help me Choose!!!!!!!!!! Hey guys, I am a grade 12 student and have been accepted to both Queen's Mechatronics and Waterloo Mechanical Eng with coop. Do not guarantee your option. There are CS jobs the world over, but it is less common I am a mechatronics student at the University of Waterloo. Tron at uwo isnt prestigious like waterloo and will be much more expensive. Mech, EE: Low to mid 90s. It's harder than say cs or ece. NegotiationAncient77. Waterloo Engineering Programs Help: Electrical vs Mechatronics vs Computer Anyone have advice on how I can decide which of these programs to apply to? Was initially planning to apply to Mechanical Engineering, however I believe these have better job prospects. You will also take quite a few mechanical/electrical courses in the program so you may not be happy with the few software courses you take. U of T has a Mechatronics specialization in mechanical engineering. Megathread. here are my specific stats. Think it’s worth saying that queens mechatronics isn’t accredited yet (they’re only on their second year). Waterloo is the best for tron hands down. Tron at Waterloo is definitely easier than UofT EngSci, meaning you have more time for hobbies, clubs, projects, friends, etc. But be aware cuz admissions may be more competitive next year due to highschool grade inflation. I am currently figuring out if I want to apply (list as my first choice) to computer engineering or mechatronics engineering. Normally you have to transfer to TRON after 1B mech (since then you have your circuits and programming marks) and you need a high GPA, around 90% average (which is probably going to get harder considering that they probably over admitted some TRONS so competition is tough, and also the fact that grades will be inflated due to online school). Sounds like a blast. Hey, to start off: I'm only asking because I'm unsure which program I would like to do more. So I am in grade 12 now and I am sure about taking engineering for my undergraduate degree. I chose mechatronics because when I was in high school, I wanted a coding based job but then I saw that mechatronics involved coding, as well as electrical and mechanical hardware. It's genius!' As a consequence, it may be harder to find a job. I know Waterloo SYDE has very comprehensive documentation of what their alumni are doing post graduation. Many students in tron do end up doing Hi, I am a grade 12 student who got admitted to mechatronics engineering. You're still going to go through a bunch of these in mechatronics but only with one course for each whereas mechanical students will take them throughout more courses (usually two). 3B has a design project which can quite easily take up more time than any other Mechatronics = Mechanical with Computers. If you literally don't care about what you do and stufy and work, tron might be better since software/tron jobs tend to pay better than mech jobs. The first three years of the Mechatronics Engineering program consist primarily of "core" courses that must be taken by all students. A large portion of the cohort will likely end up working in software engineering jobs (A common theme with all engineering programs at Waterloo). Better for post-grad employment within the US and Canada. However, the program has good job opportunities/rates because of its reputation and the fact that your coop experiences determine much more of your success than the courses you take. Mechatronics is actually one of the best programs. 225 bench 405 deadlift 275 squat. Waterloo Mechatronics Engineering vs McMaster Free Choice Engineering. Reply. I think at most two courses outside of ECE can count, but this was in the old curriculum. I am perfectly happy to do Mech eng. At the end of the day, you’ll succeed at either school if you put in the work, but see if I'm currently trying to decide between U of T and Waterloo; Engineering Science and Mechatronics. For school, my marks have pretty much been consistent at around a 94 avg but math/sci courses are like >95. Mechatronics is the closest thing to general engineering that Waterloo has. Mech touches on thermo, heat transfer, fluid mechanics, machine design, manufacturing, materials sciences, electric and motor theory, control systems, mechanics of deformable solids, dynamics and a whole buttload of math and physics. There isn't a set hierarchy. 6 co-op terms give you the chance to explore different career paths. Mechatronics from UoA for industrial automation competes very strongly for top position of degrees-that-aren't-aligned-with-industry. • 23 min. First year is relatively easy because tron has programming instead of physics in 1A, then we have statics in 1B instead of the dynamics that everyone else had in 1A. Calling all mechatronics engineering students/alumni. Biochem is already a double major (basically). It is paired with and bears similarities to the mechanical engineering program here, with greater focus on programming and signal processing. So all that’s left is Civil. Waterloo Mechatronics engineering (stats pls) For those of you who got an offer for tron, what were ur stats? Im just tryna see if I actually have a shot, rn im at 94-95 average with decent EC's and a mid interview. Look into a minor. Co-op is definitely plentiful and the good thing with Tron is, you can scoop anything from manufacturing engineer to software dev. I have personally forgot all the linear algebra from 1st year so I had to relearn it this year. Waterloo Engineering is typically not fond of summer school and they may add a penalty to your average. Mechatronics Eng at Waterloo or Eng 1 with free choice at McMaster? Admissions So waterloo finally got back today after waiting for months (and with 20 days left to decide 👌) and so I was wondering what you guys thought, since I also got accepted to engineering 1 with free choice at mcmaster. Hey y'all, I just had a few questions about the university and the mechatronics engineering program. Mechatronics is supposed to be more well-rounded and geared towards robotics, automation, etc. i havent accepted my offer yet, but how would emailing / contact someone from waterloo help me get into mechatronics? Mechatronics for systems eng might not be too bad. Also, in ECE you have technical electives in which you can take courses outside of ECE to count towards your technical electives. With mechanical, you are going to have stuff like materials science, mechanics of deformable solids, thermodynamics, fluids, etc. As others have said, the main difference is programming. I've heard many people get jobs dealing with mainly software, but then again this is coming from secondary sources. Hoping they get accredited once the first class graduates though. MechaTronics includes electrical, mechanical and computer engineering. Most Tron people end up doing software jobs. I chose tron hoping to lean more towards the software/coding side of things later on. 92K subscribers in the uwaterloo community. In the fourth year (4A and 4B) of the undergraduate program, each mechatronics engineering student must select a set of 5 technical elective courses. I disagree. (OK, not Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community Members Online My stats prof just said "We know what sigma (σ) is, we know what mew (μ) is" and I laughed i want to do experience both, but mechanical is main. Business Intelligence is the process of utilizing organizational data, technology, analytics, and the knowledge of subject matter experts to create data-driven decisions via dashboards, reports, alerts, and ad-hoc analysis. student life is the same as anywhere else i guess, it depends on you. Discussion. I was wondering when I’ll get an offer from Waterloo, Mac and western and if I’ll be considered a sitting applicant to receive an early offer. All your other questions can’t be answered by random people on reddit because it’s all up to your grades and your AIF, and there are a lot of common answers and generic answers to your questions on the admissions post that AutoMod linked This entirely depends on who you are and what your interests are. Since graduating from their programs, our mechanical and mechatronics engineering alumni have found rewarding careers that enable them to use their skills and knowledge to make our world a better place. (University of Toronto, Waterloo University, McMaster, Queens and uOttawa) I understand that UofT/Waterloo are the top out of the group, but if my driving factor was being able to land a good job after my undergraduate/good internship (co-op) opportunities/good student social Mechatronics Engineering. i would still love to learn about mechatronics and expand my job opportunities to get involved with mechatronics. I really like Waterloo's Mechatronics program, so I was wondering if people in the program/alumni could give some advice on my chances of getting in. We have a pretty wide spread of students - some love coding, others love electrical, and some like mechanical. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community hello waterloo 🤗 My brother applied to mechatronics this year and wanted to know his chance of getting accepted with a 93 avg and decent AIF The average was around 96%, same with computer engineering. I'm still waiting for UOFT (dont plan on going there anyway). Hi Everyone, Just been wondering about job opportunities after graduation from Waterloo Tron. I’m in my grade 12 year, in New Brunswick and I was curious about the engineering programs in the universities above. I'm not entirely sure which program to pick, so I need some advice. You can’t major in mechatronics at uoft. 2B is the hardest term in terms of course load, its just non stop assignments, labs and quizes. My primary concern is that Waterloo can have a better coop program for students. I think that is the joke. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment Hi I just wanted to know how competitive the mechatronics program is at Waterloo as I’ve been reading and I keep seeing that it’s been getting increasingly more difficult this year. Electrical is the easiest out of the 3 programs, I got In with a 94%. Yeah like dude above said Queens is a pretty good place to go. Waterloo Mechatronics Jobs After Graduation. Assuming average adjustment factor, and good ECs and AIF you should aim for: SE, BME: High 90s. A community for grade 12s in Ontario to discuss things about university admissions, OSAP, OUAC/OCAS… Physics (classical mechanics) in 1A can be difficult, but it is nowhere as bad as linear algebra. Most mechanical AND electrical projects (product design) require knowledge of both disciplines, so if you can speak both languages, you're ahead of the game. Most graduates from this program either start startups or go to grad school. After that, McMaster then Western. better jobs as well as more work experience. You can try to find internships during summer terms at Queens but given the current market it really isn’t easiest thing to do. I got accepted into mechatronics at UW and I got free choice at Mac. Well, I think you already mentioned it but Waterloo is definitely the best among them. When I was applying, I asked for stream 8 but ended up getting stream 4, and I just found out about this so I can't even change it. I need to get away for a bit and have some fun and take some easier courses. Totally agree, Waterloo for tron if you have the option. MTE is a multidisciplinary program that covers a variety of topics including mechanical, electrical, software, and systems design engineering, where students begin specializing in technical topics during their 4th year of study. The due dates of the required reports depend on which stream you are in. The "mechatronics was a mistake" thing is half a meme because people love to complain, and half a reality of people who are 3 co-op terms into software engineering and now all their courses are virtually useless to their field (because it's mostly mechanical, some electrical), and you basically don't get to take electives until 4th year. There are 13 designated Options described in the UW Calendar . Right now i try to automate the work force at an Aluminum Radiator factory. Advanced Functions (taken 3 times) recent attempt in private school- 97% - midterm. So choose wisely. Well worth it. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community In your co-op career, you will earn more than $60,000 so I’d say Waterloo Mechatronics over Queens. My worry with CS is two-fold, particularly in terms of job security and personal interests. My college has a transfer partner with University of Toronto but I'm not sure about Waterloo. CE, SDYE, TRON: Mid to high 90s. Not really. Hi everyone. Source: 4 years industrial automation experience, $50k of HECS regret. All I have to say is good luck. Visit our Mechatronics Engineering program website. I have excellent ecs (or so I think), such as founding and running a coding club, school prefect (student council), robotics team, varsity basketball, attending the SHAD program, completing online college CS course, coaching I really enjoy the program and what I'm doing. If you find out that you like some particular field you can work towards it. When it's full everyone moves forward; the person at front pops out, like just a mechanical pencil!' said Glenn Weppler enthusiastically, 'AND we're burying them to insulate them. Going to McGill would allow me to live with my parents and essentially go to McGill for free through scholarships. You are actually a human being. Received 10+ emails back from recruiters at recent career fair. I dont even know if mechatronics is good for me. I'm not so sure about their education, but from my personal experience, knowing both alumni in mechanical@uoft & tron@waterloo, waterloo is more of a target school. Linear algebra: Linear Algebra for Engineers and Scientists, by Hardy (*I think*) Programming: Starting out with C++, by Gaddis, 9e (but 8e will do) Concepts: There is a course-notes package for the concepts 93K subscribers in the uwaterloo community. Failure to do so may impact your graduation. I got into UBC, and got deferred from mechatronics to nanotech (I listed nanotech as a secondary option). Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community If you want a computer programming job, do computer engineering. P. From the admission average acceptance probability chart, you're looking at a 40% chance for an offer - before the AIF is considered (IIRC, someone correct me if that's wrong). Many other good engineering schools in Canada. I find waterloo's co-op program far superior to UofT's internship program. ago. . Note: If you have stream switched or are no longer in the same stream as you started, it is your responsibility to get enrolled into upcoming work reports. The most popular Options among MME students are: Mechatronics , Management Sciences , Software , Artificial Intelligence, Computing and Biomechanics . So I applied to engineering at UBC and mechatronics at Waterloo. In terms of how competitive the programs are to get in, tron is more difficult to get into than mech IIRC. No. my friend is at mac and has no life, i had a ton of fun and made tons of friends at uw and generally i found it really lively. S. An applied science degree in mechanical or mechatronics engineering provides several versatile career paths. As long as you get at least 2/5 on the AIF, you're looking at an 80% instead, so they're pretty decent. And I'm totally fine with making connections and searching for co-op placements by myself if Windsor is not as inclined to do it as Waterloo or Does anyone know the first year textbook list for Waterloo Mechatronics engineering? 1A: Calc 1: Calculus for Engineers, by Trim, 4e. Hi so I am starting community college in the states (California) and I'm supposed to know what's my intended university to transfer to and I want to double major in 2 things mechatronics and business administration. uOttawa and Carleton engineering = bad. i'm especially I'm going to SFU, I read that they teach more than UBC regarding mecatronics. Which one provides a wider range of job pathways? Does the pay differ significantly between the two pathways? Thanks. 27 I applied to mechatronics engineering at Waterloo with a 95 average as for my first semester which had advanced functions, chemistry and physics. Award. Done all software engineering & data science salaries ranged from $23/hr to $160/hr (that includes housing and bonus and all) Any mechatronics students that have done an academic exchange in another country for their 3B term? If so: Where did you go? Were you able to do all the 3B courses at that school? How easy was it compared to waterloo. If you specifically want a Mechatronics degree, Univesity of Waterloo is excellent. lb ez ee ad ct ky rn rk mn id